Feb 02, 2007, 03:31 AM // 03:31
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Agree, they buff power attack to make it powerful. How about the same for power shot?
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Feb 02, 2007, 03:32 AM // 03:32
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: California
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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Or look at [wiki]Crossfire[/wiki] compared to [wiki]Power Shot[/wiki]. 5e less, 2r less, and you're only trading 5 damage for it being unblockable if your target is near one of your allies. Power Shot is completely pointless as it is now.
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Feb 02, 2007, 05:15 AM // 05:15
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: England
Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]
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Power Shot always was pointless. Precision Shot had its uses, but that is equally as worthless now 5e and 2s more than Crossfire, EASILY INTERRUPTABLE and can't be blocked... having someone near the target is extremely easy to satisfy.
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Feb 02, 2007, 05:16 AM // 05:16
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#5
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: None
Profession: R/Mo
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Agreed.Warriors Power attack gets buffed , and so should power shot. , i and others requested this last weekend skill change and get ignored. oh well.
I think with the nerfing RaO into oblivion is also a way of forcing rangers to use bows , however bows are pretty poor as far as raw dmg goes, so idk.
power shots just a symptom of that.
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Feb 02, 2007, 05:20 AM // 05:20
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NY
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A couple things..first, what does buffing power attack have to do with Power shot? Nothing. The names are similar, and thats it. -.-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haijiibirdhead
Agreed.Warriors Power attack gets buffed , and so should power shot. , i and others requested this last weekend skill change and get ignored. oh well.
I think with the nerfing RaO into oblivion is also a way of forcing rangers to use bows , however bows are pretty poor as far as raw dmg goes, so idk.
power shots just a symptom of that.
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Don't kid yourself, Rao was imbalanced. At least in 4v4/6v6.
All that aside, 2 sec recharge for Power Shot or something.
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Feb 02, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46
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#7
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Guild: Devil Me [DEvM]
Profession: E/D
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Power creeping ftl.
But yeah, instead of nerfing commonly used skills, they should buff the underpowered ones.
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Feb 02, 2007, 05:55 AM // 05:55
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: California Canada/BC
Guild: STG Administrator
Profession: Mo/
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It would be best at 5 energy and say 5 or 6 sec recharge sure Rangers do get more energy and with expertise it may help but eventually Warriors turn to adrenal skill instead.I use all adrenal.
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Feb 02, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19
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#9
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: England
Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion
A couple things..first, what does buffing power attack have to do with Power shot? Nothing. The names are similar, and thats it. -.-
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The basic concept is the same... they both do extra damage. The only difference is for some stupid reason Power Shot costs twice as much energy and does almost half the damage.
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Don't kid yourself, Rao was imbalanced. At least in 4v4/6v6.
All that aside, 2 sec recharge for Power Shot or something.
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Nobody said it wasn't a bit overpowered... But nerfing it to a point where it's now so useless it'll never be used again was pointless.
2s recharge? This skill could have a 0 recharge and i wouldn't use it. Not at 10 energy a shot.
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Feb 02, 2007, 07:41 AM // 07:41
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Australia(the land of lesser games)
Guild: neptunes grace
Profession: R/W
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Power shot has alot of lag to, it really makes alot of sense to buff it.
It cant inflict status condition, its easily evaded or blocked.
Power shot has No special status, so it makes plenty of sense if they buff it damage output wise.
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Feb 02, 2007, 06:29 PM // 18:29
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Forge Runner
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Power attack and Power Shot are unique because the +dmg is added to the base dmg of the attack, and therefore reduced by armor, rather than armor ignoring like every other attack skill bonus in the game. This makes it even crappier.
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Feb 02, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29
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#12
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: May 2006
Profession: R/
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Listen, there have to be skills in the game that are crappier than other skills. If you buff power shot to a higher level than other marksmanship skills, people will complain about the "noob" skill being more powerful than all the other skills.
It's the most basic bow attack. Leave it a noob skill, use the other skills when you get them.
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Feb 02, 2007, 08:20 PM // 20:20
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Teenager with attitude
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk
Power attack and Power Shot are unique because the +dmg is added to the base dmg of the attack, and therefore reduced by armor, rather than armor ignoring like every other attack skill bonus in the game. This makes it even crappier.
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Actually, they don't do that, at least not when I tested it a year ago. SonOfRah's damage article made the claim about Power Attack/Shot, but I found that all Strength, Tactics, and Expertise-based attack skills used their attribute value instead of the weapon attribute value - for example, when you used Power Attack with an axe, instead of using 16 axe mastery to calculate axe damage, it'd use 10 strength instead. But that was changed in an update before Factions, so now they all use the correct values.
Anyhow, the +damage is armor-ignoring.
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Feb 04, 2007, 02:40 AM // 02:40
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#14
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High
Listen, there have to be skills in the game that are crappier than other skills. If you buff power shot to a higher level than other marksmanship skills, people will complain about the "noob" skill being more powerful than all the other skills.
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It's true Power Shot has just been this thing to pad out the skillbar in pre-searing.
The thing is, even if it did +4 to +6 more damage than Screaming Shot, it wouldn't be a "better" skill. There is poo, and then there is poo you can see clearly is poo from the moment you start playing a game.
Not asking for this to become a viable skill, asking for it to have some reason to exist. Power Attack was as good as having an empty skill slot before.
I dunno, what's the upper threshold on +damage from bow and spear skills?
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